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'''Logistics |\/|337 december 2016'''
 
'''Logistics |\/|337 december 2016'''
  
''Preparations for meeting to be done here.''
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Meeting notes.
  
* Please share everything that you want to tell everyone beforehand etc on the mailinglist and put questions / discussion items on this page.
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* Date: Dec 15 2017
** Waste update: [[Team:Logistics/Waste]]
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* Location: Revspace
** Knorrie joins subteam On-site
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* Present: Juerd, Maxell, Sebastius, Maeddoc, WinSCaP, Knorrie
** Manduca braindump: https://lists.sha2017.org/pipermail/logistics/2016-December/000078.html
 
** ROC: We have a contact at a supplier, which is very convenient. ROC idea is to choose the right equipment and rent everything there, so less complexity.
 
* If you know answers to questions below, or know where to find them, or want to email people about them to get answers, Cc: the mailing list, so we know who's doing what. (It makes no sense to agree on questions and sit there during the meeting without answers looking at each other.)
 
  
1. Team-External things, add questions here that we need to get answered
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== General topics ==
* Is the location definitive?
 
** Last info: (Attilla, dec 5) "We zijn nu bezig met het afronden van het contract met scouting en vergunning."
 
* Who is doing maps? Who is putting things where, and who from logistics talks to who from where to make sure we can live with the result?
 
** -> Attilla, Redlizard; at least Manduca has been talking to them sat nov 26
 
** Knorrie asked Redlizard for a copy of the map http://sha2017-map.redlizard.nl/ But, not much on it yet. We can gather our ideas about the terrain layout and directly communicate with Redlizard/Attilla. "15:42 <@redlizard> Well, I imagine the most practical would be for Attilla to invite you to the terrain planning meetings :)"
 
* Which other teams are doing big orders? road mats? traffic signs? What is our proposal fup the Attilla renting questions mail?
 
** Beetje moeizaam, here's Knorrie ideas: https://lists.sha2017.org/pipermail/logistics/2016-December/000093.html
 
* Team arrival/departure (To shuttle or not to shuttle) is unclear. There has not been a response to the idea. We tend not to spend effort on it because it's not our responsibility, still, the idea of having a good arrival/departure experience (the little things that make it great!) has huge value for visitors and their memories of the camp.
 
** Can someone ping Attilla/Projectleiding about this idea again?
 
  
2. Subteams, add everything you want ask about / discuss. If you want to tell things, tell them beforehand on the ml plz:
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* Location definitive? Unclear.
* Review scope of each subteam, make sure that expectations and reality meet (make sure we can clearly communicate to others what is done in which subteam, and what is not done by us).
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* Budget, status: unknown. Juerd submitted a budget draft to Finance (update: multiple times) but we haven't seen response yet.
* What questions do we know others have about us? Do we know if the wiki info (scope) about the team is clear?
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* Terrain Layout: Map at http://sha2017-map.redlizard.nl/ for now. Not much too see yet. Redlizard says that interested people from Logistics can join map meetings to think along with the terrain layout.
* Off-site: How do we promote the position so the correct person to do it will actually find/see it?
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* General feeling is that the orga is silent, not much is happening. Do we need to worry? Or are things actually happening, but is communication about it severely lacking?
* On-site: Can we take ownership of the rental discussion (or at least: steer it, so many efficient BAM BAM BAM)
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* Maxell: my summer holiday starts 1.5 week before SHA.
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* Rental discussion thread on the ML, initiated by Attilla: "How to organize big rentals?" Knorrie brought up some ideas, teams need to cooperate a bit, and that needs to be coordinated. Update: during next big orga meet (Jan 28), there will be a meeting about this, to get the ball rolling.
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** https://lists.sha2017.org/pipermail/logistics/2016-November/000074.html & thread
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** https://lists.sha2017.org/pipermail/logistics/2016-December/000084.html & thread
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* It's unclear to us if Orga/Projectleiding got the message that we're not doing shuttles any more.
  
There's not enough to do yet to switch to BAM BAM BAM orga mode, so nothing happens, which is fine, but not for long:
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''' Planning / deadlines '''
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* Beginning of April 2017, every sub team needs to:
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** have a clear plan
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** be actively working together with other teams to execute the plan
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** have contracts with suppliers that are ready to be signed
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* If a sub team did not manage to get its shit together at that time, then it's the last chance to rescue it by interfering.
  
3. When do subteams need to be active?
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''' Actions '''
* Agree on how often we report progress on our mailing list (other people do not magically know what you're doing!)
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* Knorrie: Ask Redlizard about map meetings
* Define date on which each subteam needs to be active (like, if there are no frequent signs of activity/progress e.g. on the mailinglist -> somethings going wrong).
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* Knorrie: Push Team Arrival/Departure idea once more. (covering shuttles communication)
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== Shopping ==
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* WinSCaP: General idea: "I they have it at one of the shops in this fixed list of five shops, you can get it". E.g. Action -> Hornbach -> IKEA -> X -> Y
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''' Actions '''
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* WinSCaP: Initiate meeting WinSCaP + Knorrie to review all preparation material from OHM
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* WinSCaP: Get copies of receipts of shopping runs done during OHM, to improve preparations. (EelcoH)
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== LHQ ==
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* Juerd: Warehouse tracking system focus will be on the essential functionality at the warehouse only. Everything extra is a nice to have.
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== Off-site ==
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* Update (2-Jan-17): Maeddoc moves from subteam Waste to Off-site. Yay!
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* Still looking for a second subteamlead here, Vacancy is still on the orga wiki vacancy page.
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== On-site ==
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* Knorrie joins this subteam
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* Manduca braindump: https://lists.sha2017.org/pipermail/logistics/2016-December/000078.html
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''' Actions '''
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* Manduca, Knorrie: create a plan.
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== Waste ==
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* Sebastius has been gardening in the subteam wiki page, and starts bugging other teams with info and questions.
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* Plan needs to be finished. Just needs to be done, no impediments, but hasn't been done yet.
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== ROC ==
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* We have a contact at a supplier, which is very convenient. The idea is to choose the right equipment and rent everything there, so less complexity and gezeur with borrowing things.
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* Update: Zarya left the orga
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* Subteam status unclear, worrying. Nothing happened yet.
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* Maxell has a tendency to jump in to get things done.
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* Idea: ask scouting for repeaterplan and other info, because they already have a lot of been-there-done-that.
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''' Actions '''
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* Who? Get the subteam active. Do something. Make a plan. Act.

Latest revision as of 22:13, 2 January 2017

Logistics |\/|337 december 2016

Meeting notes.

  • Date: Dec 15 2017
  • Location: Revspace
  • Present: Juerd, Maxell, Sebastius, Maeddoc, WinSCaP, Knorrie

General topics

  • Location definitive? Unclear.
  • Budget, status: unknown. Juerd submitted a budget draft to Finance (update: multiple times) but we haven't seen response yet.
  • Terrain Layout: Map at http://sha2017-map.redlizard.nl/ for now. Not much too see yet. Redlizard says that interested people from Logistics can join map meetings to think along with the terrain layout.
  • General feeling is that the orga is silent, not much is happening. Do we need to worry? Or are things actually happening, but is communication about it severely lacking?
  • Maxell: my summer holiday starts 1.5 week before SHA.
  • Rental discussion thread on the ML, initiated by Attilla: "How to organize big rentals?" Knorrie brought up some ideas, teams need to cooperate a bit, and that needs to be coordinated. Update: during next big orga meet (Jan 28), there will be a meeting about this, to get the ball rolling.
  • It's unclear to us if Orga/Projectleiding got the message that we're not doing shuttles any more.

Planning / deadlines

  • Beginning of April 2017, every sub team needs to:
    • have a clear plan
    • be actively working together with other teams to execute the plan
    • have contracts with suppliers that are ready to be signed
  • If a sub team did not manage to get its shit together at that time, then it's the last chance to rescue it by interfering.

Actions

  • Knorrie: Ask Redlizard about map meetings
  • Knorrie: Push Team Arrival/Departure idea once more. (covering shuttles communication)

Shopping

  • WinSCaP: General idea: "I they have it at one of the shops in this fixed list of five shops, you can get it". E.g. Action -> Hornbach -> IKEA -> X -> Y

Actions

  • WinSCaP: Initiate meeting WinSCaP + Knorrie to review all preparation material from OHM
  • WinSCaP: Get copies of receipts of shopping runs done during OHM, to improve preparations. (EelcoH)

LHQ

  • Juerd: Warehouse tracking system focus will be on the essential functionality at the warehouse only. Everything extra is a nice to have.

Off-site

  • Update (2-Jan-17): Maeddoc moves from subteam Waste to Off-site. Yay!
  • Still looking for a second subteamlead here, Vacancy is still on the orga wiki vacancy page.

On-site

Actions

  • Manduca, Knorrie: create a plan.

Waste

  • Sebastius has been gardening in the subteam wiki page, and starts bugging other teams with info and questions.
  • Plan needs to be finished. Just needs to be done, no impediments, but hasn't been done yet.

ROC

  • We have a contact at a supplier, which is very convenient. The idea is to choose the right equipment and rent everything there, so less complexity and gezeur with borrowing things.
  • Update: Zarya left the orga
  • Subteam status unclear, worrying. Nothing happened yet.
  • Maxell has a tendency to jump in to get things done.
  • Idea: ask scouting for repeaterplan and other info, because they already have a lot of been-there-done-that.

Actions

  • Who? Get the subteam active. Do something. Make a plan. Act.